The Coloristos ColorCast - Episode 9 "Control Panels"

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  1. Juan Salvo

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    Coloristos Episode 9 is Available!

    This show we're talking about...

    • Control panels and how they can help you grade with greater speed and precision, while at the same time allowing you to be more creative. We cover the pros and cons of a number of popular, affordable panels, and also review the advanced features available on control surfaces used with several high-end grading applications.

    http://coloristos.podomatic.com/entry/2013-02-28T00_01_57-08_00

    and (probably more importantly) on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-coloristos-colorcast/id549040100?mt=2


    SHOW NOTES:
    A couple of clarifications in this Podcast, the Quantel offering is the Neo Nano panel and Pablo Rio software. Not to be confused with the Neo panel and Pablo software. Sorry Q.

    Also the man behind Scopebox and the clever idea for the Arduino project is Mike Woodworth (not Woolworth, sorry Mike!).

    CONTEST:
    SPOILER ALERT! As announced at the end of the podcast, thanks to Blackmagic, we're giving away a full DaVinci Resolve license. Just be sure to give us a review on iTunes asap to enter. We'll announce a winner on our next podcast.

    itunes link again: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-coloristos-colorcast/id549040100?mt=2

    PANEL PICTURES:
    Here are the major panels we discuss, for your convience:

    Tangent Wave
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    MC Color
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    JL Cooper Eclipse
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    Tangent CP-200
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    Tangent Element
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    Quantel Neo
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    and the Neo Nano
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    Baselight Blackboard
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    and Blackboard 2
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    Ooooh pictures!
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    And the DaVinci Control Surface
    [IMG]

    which takes you from looking like this:
    [IMG]

    to this:
    [IMG]

    Don't forget to review us on iTunes to enter to win a copy of DaVinci Resolve.

    And as always, if you should have any questions or comments, let us know, right here!
  2. Bart Walczak

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    Very nice podcast again! Thanks a lot. I see that the idea of extremely low-cost control surface is slowly gaining ground :)

    I think that the first company that makes the simple surface that will cost under $500, and will be able to provide the drivers for SpeedGrade and Resolve, is going to sell lots of these to the wannabe editors and colorists.
  3. Great show as usual! I love the podcast. The real question is: Will my wife also look like that if I purchase the DaVinci Control Surface? Heck, I only have the Wave and she already looks pretty good! :)
  4. Pepijn Klijs

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    Great job again!

    I personally love the Wave for its mobility. I freelance a lot on location and I dont have to figure out a different panel each time, I just get on my bike with the Wave. Usb and lightweight.

    Does anyone know if we'll ever get log controls mapped in Resolve (contrast, pivot etc)? Why isnt that already there?

    Cheers
    Pepo
  5. Chris Ramey

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    Another iPad interface not mentioned in the cast that looks awesome, http://www.actfocused.com/ for Cineform users. It has a nice drag to multitouch rotate gesture that looks interesting.
    The "Minority Report" product to keep an eye on is the Leap: https://www.leapmotion.com/ - one day I'll be grading a film with chopsticks.
  6. Wow, that Leapmotion looks sweet! I just hope it really does get well developed. I thought that a lot more in terms of interactivity would come out of the Magic Trackpad, but development kind of stopped at where it started. I con't remember a single software that has developed its own uses for it. Imagine, for instance, being able to draw your custom curves in Resolve with simple gestures.
    The Leapmotion shows a lot of promise and, if well implemented, could very well change the way we work. But I guess it is up to individual companies to really take advantage of it. Not that it would replace a control surface in Resolve, but it could certainly make certain operations a lot more intuitive and fast.
  7. Neal Kassner

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    Since you guys mentioned Digital Vision's older and newer panels (Valhall and Precision respectively) in the podcast but didn't include pictures of them above, here's a couple:

    Digital Vision Valhall.jpg Digital Vision Precision .jpg
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  8. Juan Salvo

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    I knew I missed one! Sorry film master. I did feel like Jack Jones was upset with me for some reason.
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  9. Ola Haldor Voll

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    A quick summary on how I ended up with a JLCooper.

    In 2010 I faced an ultimatum after having a nit picky client. "Play that for me, will you?"
    I was in Color. Goes without saying it wasn't possible to just play that. So I started looking around for options. Mac based preferably - or should I go for Windows? In between all this I found that the (then) Euphonix MC Color finally was released for the public, after 8 months of waiting after their original plan for release.

    I got myself a test unit and had a blast for a couple of days before I had to send it back. I was hooked on it. A project I had previously spent days on using a tablet and keyboard was done in just a matter of hours.
    Just as I was about to order the MC Color, a bomb hit the market. DaVinci had come to Mac. And what a nice price!

    It became clear I wouldn't want anything else than what the big guys were working on. After all, it could play audio and video in real-time. The panel could wait.
    Spring 2011, after months of thinking about MC Color, Wave or Eclipse, I got my first panel - and I still use it. The JLCooper Eclipse is solid, have tons of buttons and a numpad to quickly jump around the timeline. It was bought as a first step towards the big Resolve panel. At least I can work faster and more precise until then.

    I can literally do anything I want with it. Jumping between menus is a one-click operation, vs. the Wave where you (as far as I have experienced) have to "scroll" between "pages" before you get where you wanna be.


    There's only a few things I miss. Not critical, but would be a nice feature:
    • Labeled buttons. The displays at the top is a great way to see what each knob do - would love to have such for the the buttons in those few cases I've forgot what they do.
    • There's no Stereo 3D controls. Not even a menu to activate such. The one time I did 3D, I really wish I had sensitive knobs to adjust convergence and such.
  10. Neal Kassner

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    Dubner_004.jpg Not to get too old-school about it, but here's a 32-channel Dubner control panel...
  11. jamie dickinson

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    Excellent podcast, guys. Keep it up!
    Did you mention the cool thumbnails in the numerous little OLED screens in the Quantel Neo panel. They're handy.
  12. James Wicks

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    I love the Colorista Podcasts!
    Keep up the great work, guys.

    Best, J
  13. Ryan Rossillo

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    Jason mentions issues with latency using the Avid MC Color. Since you said it was an online gig, I'm assuming you were working in Symphony. The choppiness is a result of the color engine in Symphony, not the panel. It functions smoothly in Resolve.

    This issue came up in this thread:
    http://community.avid.com/forums/t/103842.aspx

    Keep up the good work, gents!

    -R
  14. Jason Myres Moderator

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    It was an online gig, but we were using FCP7 with Resolve. The latency could be because of the USB-Ethernet adapter that was used to connect it to the Mac Pro, as both of it's internal ethernet ports were being used for networking.

    Glad you liked the episode though. Thanks for checking it out.
  15. Marc R Leonard

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    Finally got a chance to listen... Great episode guys! Keep it up!
  16. Joseph Mastantuono

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    Great show as always guys. This is one of the few post-production podcasts out where I feel like the hosts live in the same world I do...

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